Required fields are marked *. Hes asked whether Shannan was strangling CeCe or smothering her, at first he says strangling because this is the only thing that makes his story believable but afterwards he knows theyll be no marks so he says hes not sure. She was calling him honey, and being all lovey dovey in her messages to him all weekend. You get to know the people involved in a criminal investigation pretty well after writing 4 x 30 000+ word narratives. I am by no means defending him. Inhaling ethanol fumes would make them all instant drunk and completely defenseless. We know that she went to her office and attempted to order haircare products, and in the welfare check footage you can clearly see a large dark blanket on the sofa, and two small pink chair beds by the side of the sofa. Thats contained in her autopsy report. I love that guy. He was an operator for Anadarko. Sociopaths/Covert narcissists wreak havoc and(emotional) destruction on those around them without exception. Also, we usually can find some urine, fecal material, body fluid on the bed sheet and the quilt. It may interest people to see how MLM companies such as Thrive, train their customers and promoters in Time and Management and Organisational skills, both of which can be classified as OCD behaviours to an untrained eye. Her friend had to tiptoe around the place when she stayed over for fear of waking the kids up. Im enjoying this site (first visit) and thanks for listening. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Bellas stomach contained 75 milliliters of green-black fluid, the report states, which was most likely from the oil tank she was placed inside. She said he was telling people he has to go to work and that just doesnt seem right. The FBI agents had already profiled that the wife had been strangled because theyd been through the house with luminol & found no blood splatter, and because children were involved also believed smothering was involved. Stranglehold Theory. That sounds very very snarky. He eventually disappeared for long time, gave me house. And then you test it in various scenarios. As for the one person Im referring to I think ignoring them is pretty much a good idea (: Im not a contributor to this conversation. And dropped her in alive? She was relatively YOUNG. He kind of giggled & said like you mean like on TV like a magician. All those purchases, that expensive leased SUV that LeVel would only give her a car allowance for if she kept her sales up, the expensive preschool, the too-big house with all the fancy furnishings, several closets full of expensive shoes-shoes-shoes (yet she wore the same pair of flipflops every day), multiple purses, more clothes than one person could possibly be using, on and on and on. Because she was submerged in oil for four days. Nickole called Christopher Watts and requested he come home and check on Shanann. Chris was plainly seen in the neighbors security video loading a red gas can into the back of his truck. He just didnt want another baby. in any case, who the hell trusts anything coming from Chris Watts? But youre not thinking any further than that. MYTH: OCD IS JUST ABOUT HAND-WASHING, CLEANING, AND BEING NEAT. We cannot have that thing on earth with us. She even labelled food in her kitchen. parents are hardly ever at the ones to determine that nothing can be done to save their children. Lo que ese animal hizo estuvo todo en su sano juicio, los borrachos dicen que hacen cosas indebidas por estar ebrios pero, este definitivamente es satans. So the agent says what about strangling? Page 582, 6. Shannan was a hypochondriac, who was gonna turn her kids into the same. Or after kids went to bed, and Im sure she didnt want to become an instant Mom! 3. Thats the update; at the beginning of the article, theres a link to the first contact between her and the financial counselor. She had everything she needed on the ground floor kitchen for food and drink, office to make haircare purchases, bathroom and toilet and a big sofa with a huge blanket left on it as shown in the initial welfare check police body-cam footage. No, this does not indicate that she was still alive. Celeste was found face down in that oil tank. Will we ever know the order in which they were killed? I learned all about a Sleeper/Chokeholdhated that part of SO academy, but is a great way to gain upper-hand, control over a perp and render them unconscious with one thump of my forearm on their neck/carotid artery.,, you black out immediately! How was she about her childrens allergies? Esophagus: .. Theres also a serious fundamental problem with your theory, which goes to the forensics. The childrens cause of death was given as asphyxiation due to smothering. Bella also had Blunt force trauma. Maybe some ppl just can only take so much. He said he didnt hurt Shannan just as much, Ive read all the transcripts. what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids?. That discussion included stating she couldnt afford to live in Colorado as a single mom, AND she would have to immediately pull the girls out of school to save money. He continuously maintained throughout the entire interrogation that he would never hurt those kids. Hence, no struggle, no stretches. One of the predatory marketing techniques used by MLMs (which overwhelmingly target MOMs) is that they can be at home *with* their children, making extra money with little effort. Chriss demeanor was nonchalant. If the digestive tract opens up at death, where did Shannan, Bella and Celeste poop? Even more common with pregnant women. At the time of her death, Shanann had been 15 weeks pregnant (via MEAWW). Chris is dead inside. For the sake that they did poop, youre assuming he didnt clean it up in the bed. He is very thorough, very professional, analyses and peels back all the layers. Shannan did not have any marks on her face indicative of a punch, slap, or anything at all. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. I sense some disciplinary issues, and Ive seen her being absolutely overwhelmed as to how to really effectively handle even the most basic of situations. I am of the opinion that: Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was forced brutally into the oil tank, and her injuries were sustained during this push. Meacham [who knew Shanann from school] described Shanaan as OCD in the way the household operated. It takes 4 5 hours for a stomach to empty after eating. I dont know about you, but I definitely dont sleep in mine. I wrote a book that tried to integrate information, not just throw the information in the air and shrug. Usually when theres a fight while strangulation is occurring the perpetrator uses so much force the hyoid bone is broken; shannans was not. I have a question. Why was her phone downstairs along with suitcase. This was filmed during the police officers body cam footage. If Shanann tried to claw his neck I would think he would have cuts there. A person who is killed and immediately wrapped up and taken out of the home within an hour isnt going to be in rigor in that time- the first rigor shows up in about 1-2 hours, and then takes about 12 hrs to fully develop Then dissipates again about 12 hours later. Thanks for the paper, ganana Im with you on this. She also could not stand Shannan. I would put the blame on Chris! The reports had been sealed until the outcome of the trial. Esophageal strictures are typically treated with a procedure called esophageal dilation, during which a physician uses a small balloon to stretch open the scar tissue causing the narrowing in the esophagus. Scares me honestly. Once the body dies the lower digestive tract opens up. Chris went to an oil well job site to check out it. Even flailing my legs they werent even reaching him. Does this mean Bella was still alive when she was dropped into the tank? He is a monster. Throw it away? Diana, this is something several of us have noted as well. The police reports contain a conversation Chris had with his father. The entire thing is one of the worst cases Ive ever heard of- and I think about those poor responders who retrieved the bodies May they find peace from those memories some day soon. Im just not comfortable sleeping without it. Also, if memory serves, CW did at least one load of laundry on the night in question. I have no insight? A CHOKEHOLD usually involves cutting off the air supply, (air choke or tracheal choke) a STRANGLEHOLD involves cutting off the blood supply. Gastrointestinal Tract: Thats all information in police interviews with Shananns friends. Perhaps it is safer that the majority public dont know the facts. Everything else was secondary or something to be minimized so she could focus on her addiction. Perhaps they had one via phone or text. Once Shanann got in bed and settled to sleep, he then got on her and, like a snake, squeezed the life out of his prey. Shanann was strangled and the children were smothered. Does this indicate that she was alive after being put into the oil tank? I cannot get over what he did. In the video of Chris Wattss confession, previously published on CrimeOnline, investigators appear incredulous that he was able to fit the bodies into the tanks, but Watts claimed he was able to do so without difficulty. Also just because she was strangled and they were suffocated doesnt mean dirt. *** Wearing a bra to bed is in fact QUITE common with busty women**. The trauma dogs noted hot spots in the basement. Not one place on his body? While officers were waiting, Christopher confessed to killing Shanann, and getting rid of the bodies of Celeste and Bella. You wrote a book blaming Shannan- seems to me youre just throwing your assumptions around. And in his own words under his own free will he admitted he act it killed his kids twice before that was ever said. Page 453 Oil water and sludge debris in the stomach.. Why would she quit her job to be a stay-at-home mom and then put the tots right into full-time daycare? Are you a parent? Any attacking motion he made that Shanann saw, even for a second, would have prompted her to scream. Or do you believe his lies, that she harmed the kids and then he did same to her? Now remember this would be AFTER strangling Shannan carrying her to their room & putting her in bed, so at least 5 minutes and since it would have taken about 4 minutes for CeCe to die 9 minutes had passed supposedly since Shannan had been in her room. Stomach: The stomach contains approximately 75mls of viscous green-black fluid which is suggestive of oil and particulate matter from the oil tank which she was in. Or carbon monoxide poisoning [something a former mechanic and oil worker would know about]. smother someone with your bare handscover/press their nostrils and mouths. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) D Oil, water and sludge debris in the stomach That does not necessarily equate to being a psychiatric disorder, just personal empowerment. Lack of defensive injuries. Thankfully that psych warned me I should take the children somewhere to be safe. Shannan's cause of death was strangulation while an autopsy found crude oil in Bella and Celeste's throats, stomach and lungs. I took a lot of interest in the K9 footage as I had a SAR Shore Rescue dog for 13 years (best nose in Cornwall). Bella was face up in the oil tank. But then whats your scenario? of OCD triggers and symptoms. B . She didnt nick him in the neck, that mark was not from her nails. I did hear shananns mom say let them in her daughters house. Unless he threw it there and forgot to take it and planned on ridding of it. The autopsy also made no references to elevated levels of any Thrive-related chemicals. The second dog also had a housetraining mishap in the basement. I would just like to express an opinion of mine to you and all your readers. He also is the male submissive in F/m relationships. 100% agree. The two girls, Bella and Celestes bodies also had same, was noted in autopsy reports is from decomp process. Whereas if he left at lets say 3 am. Did you have to cover something up for Shannan? He did something to immobilize or pin down her arms. He cared more about his 2 month relationship with that home wrecker then the 6 years he spent with his wife and the lives of his children. However, prosecutors maintained that Watts killed his pregnant wife and the two girls, and eventually he pleaded guilty to the crimes. Chris Watts strangled and smothered his pregnant wife Shanann, 34, to death, before strangling their daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, with a blanket in 2018. Even the few days shannan was gone. Chris worked at a petroleum manufacturing company. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. Shanann returned home from a business trip on the early morning hours of August 13, 2019. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. They probably already had an emotional conversation before she left for Phoenix and he had made up his mind to do what he did. CW planned it, read it up. They have no empathy, which enables them to be incrediably cruel, if it suits. CeCe did not have any marks & I attribute that to her age, not understanding what was happening & Im sure she lost consciousness quickly as she had breathing problems. The plea deal meant that he was spared the death penalty, and was instead sentenced to multiple life prison terms without the possibility of parole. Theres plenty of liqueurs that are very well hidden in frozen shakes etc. What was Shananns cause of death? I have NO doubt that CW did a choke-hold on his wife from behind or right side, rendering her unconscious while smothering her airwayshe never woke upis why she didnt struggle or stop him. When people die, sudden or expected, contents of their bowels and bladder are expelled. While some muscles spontaneously contract after death and though all muscles eventually tighten into rigor mortis others are loosening their grip entirely. Autopsy reports for Bella and Celeste say that the necks of the children were swabbed even though they were in a container of oil, water, and associated sludge matter. If you look at the autopsy report she has purple round spots on 1 side of her face from the chin to the temple which could be his knuckles from a punch as well as a 1 handed strangulation. October 3, 2018 / 12:35 PM / CBS Colorado. He asked one time if he should go look for his familyhe did not ask again about looking and he did not seem overly concerned, the police report said. I think she died in bed after being knocked unconscious using Marks ethanol method. He ran into Ceces bedroom and got on top of Shannan. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Not as bright. Maintaining compression in a Stranglehold after unconsciousness is rendered may result in death. My son has many medical issues as well, doesnt make me a hypochondriac ffs she isnt here to defend herself maybe back off a bit. I was in one temporarily an Acai drink, it really tried to make you ocd about $ and prestige attaining the unattainable honestly. I take comfort in that, Bella and Cee Cee likely had no idea it was their dad doing that to them, but he wouldve wanted Shanann to know he was ending her life. Dont forget, she is pregnant. He needed to be executed. They say the questions had nothing to do with infidelity so it doesnt matter whether or not he had an affair. He has to be asked if he EVER went to look at Bella and see what condition she was in. There is cowardice involved but theres an easier way to attack and subdue someone than to wait for them to fall asleep. Otherwise I cant imagine why she didnt go for his eyes etc. This is horrific, shocking, my mind is greatly troubled by this aspect. Please, if he was worried about the kids, then why did he kill them as well. Even with Bella, no screaming brain said , this is your Bella!! Shananns Blood Alcoholic Content was 0.128. Some people never saw. The body is that of a well-developed, well-nourished Caucasian female whose appearance is generally consistent with the Her spouse has a religious obsession/addiction; I think youll see similarities. He said it took minutes, the police reports say. He then "went into a rage," he claimed, and strangled her to death in retaliation. How dare you blame the victim? They didnt do date nights. Neither of them passed any body fluids. Thus, the little girls may have been unconscious but they were NOT COMPLETELY DEAD YET.and that is how oil got into their LUNGS !!!!!!!!! Folks seem to think wanting to know why means supporting Watts or blaming his wife. Between the two preferences, a lot of interaction was visible. So Chris Watts said she barely got into bed, and soshe barely got into bed? 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